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Thanks Eric...

Anything is possible but keeping it clear is another issue.


Yeah - their limited budget does not help either. What I liked with the coffee cup stuff is the ability to use add on applications as you go.

I think you could use multiple vnu for a site but managing the index page is going to be a problem.


Could you give me some more info on that, please?

What i was thinking of was a vnu that handled homepage (index.htm) and other high level pages like 'contact', 'about' and a main portal page (explore.htm) that provided links to pages within subfolders:
gallery folder
Containing:
galleryindex.htm
gallery01.htm
galery02.htm etc

with gallery having it's own .vnu

and

news folder
Containing:
newsindex.htm
news1.htm
news2.htm etc

with news having its own .vnu

Cheers

KG
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VSD does make it possible to easily add different features, and if it were hosted on an SDrive account, contributors to the site would just need a user-name and password to access certain features (such as the Storage area for photos and files).

I've used Jalbum for galleries and inserted it into VSD sites with an Iframe. Changes can be made directly in Jalbum (online) and then show up immediately in the VSD site.

For news, you could use An SDrive Stream embedded in the site. These can be updated by logging into the Coffeecup account, or contributors can send posts in from mobile devices.

So no-one has to alter the actual site, they make their edits only to the actual embedded features.
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Thanks Paintbrush.

They want to use their own domain (.org) and hosting, so I am not sure if the sdrive idea would work.

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My freinds photography website (in signature) might help you here

Go to the main website, and select portfolio page, you will eventually get a CC photogallery, starting with her father staring at you.

On the right are other galleries, and if you look at the url's you will see each one is a separate website each made in VSD so they are clones of the main site, (or they were before i changed the main site)

My point being, Sarah can upload a new gallery, without touching the site i have control of.

As Paintbrush says SDRIVE will be ideal for you, a webbie account would give you three sites, three streams, and all very independent of one and other, VERY VERY EASY to edit and upload
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...and you can use your own domain name. And access the hosting Dashboard with a user-name and password.
Even if you don't host with SDrive, it's still possible to embed things in your site that can be managed from outside of VSD. It's just that SDrive makes it very simple to do. No HTML or FTP experience required, so there's less chance of something getting messed up.

For instance, using Jalbum galleries... The galleries would be embedded in the VSD pages. Whoever manages the galleries wouldn't even need to touch the VSD site at all, they would log into the Jalbum account and insert/arrange photos and albums there.

You would make the basic site and lay-out, then embed or link to the features needed.
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Viv,

Can an sdrive account handle a www.abcde.org website hosted anywhere?

Even if it does, I'd still need to plan the folder and file management. The ease of layout for content with VSD looks great, but setting up some kind of synchronisation if tied to a single .vnu (and even multiple .vnu) for people who are only interested in adding pictures and text could be tricky.

My aim is not to manage it for them, but set up something that is manageable (in the main) by them with limited technical awareness. I had considered dreamweaver templates and contribute, but the idea of letting them put together their own pages and minimise outside technical assistance is important.

Thanks for the feedback; I'll need to check out the sdrive feature some more, I'd somewhow got the impression it would not handle independent domains.

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Paintbrush,

...and you can use your own domain name


our posts crossed - I'll need to check out the options some more... For some reason I thought it ended up as sub-domain.

Thanks.
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Have a look at the wedding car site in my signature, its hosted on a FREE SDRIVE account, has its own domainname and has good page ranking with google etc.
Started using CC VSD in January 2009, I don't do HTML code, Sales from CC site exceeding expectations taken me out of semi-retirement
Hosted FREE on CC S DRIVE www.chauffeurdrivenluxurycars.co.uk
My new VSD & SCCP site Oct 2011 www.deloreanjewellery.co.uk
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Thanks Viv.

I'll need to check out the options and consider all this some more. I don't want to create clones of the entire site, but the idea of using a primary vnu for the top level and then subsidiary vnu files for lower level areas could be an option.

Cheers.
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Viv wrote:
Go to the main website, and select portfolio page, you will eventually get a CC photogallery, starting with her father staring at you.

On the right are other galleries, and if you look at the url's you will see each one is a separate website each made in VSD so they are clones of the main site, (or they were before i changed the main site)


URLs I see:
http://www.sarahphotographer.co.uk/frie … atles.html
http://www.sarahphotographer.co.uk/frie … eward.html
http://www.sarahphotographer.co.uk/frie … nsue1.html

I've taken a quick look at the sdrive pages and Viv's links re the photo portfolio site but am not sure we're talking about the same thing.

Let's forget about SDrive for the moment - that is getting ahead of the game - I'm still looking at local site organisation. Going back to my original question about folder and file management and then the idea about using multiple .vnu files on a single site:

K G wrote:
Thanks Eric...

Eric wrote:
I think you could use multiple vnu for a site but managing the index page is going to be a problem.


Could you give me some more info on that, please?

What i was thinking of was a vnu that handled homepage (index.htm) and other high level pages like 'contact', 'about' and a main portal page (explore.htm) that provided links to pages within subfolders:
gallery folder
Containing:
galleryindex.htm
gallery01.htm
galery02.htm etc

with gallery having it's own .vnu

and

news folder
Containing:
newsindex.htm
news1.htm
news2.htm etc



So:
Question 1
Am I correct that it seems there is not a way to have folder organisation at both source and output levels since the add folder and file function only directs how the vnu file will output content and does nothing to organise files locally?
i.e. everything stays in cc_source and cc_source/files and any folder structure set up through 'add folders and files' is only created on saving/publishing in:
cc_source/cc_website

Question 2
Does anyone know if using multiple .vnu files for a single sirte is likely to cause problems?
e.g.

core.vnu for all htm files being in www root folder.
index.htm , contact.htm , about.htm , explore.htm with images residing in /files/abc.jpg

galleries.vnu for htm files and images in gallery folder(s) linked from explore.htm to:

/gallery/gallery01/gallery01.htm

/gallery/gallery02/gallery02.htm
etc

news.vnu for htm files and images related to news section linked to from explore.htm

With this (and forget about sdrive for now will just be setting up standard ftp access to web server) - each person would need a registered copy of the main VSD application and an ftp client.

Organisationally (for argument's sake):

Person 1: edits core.vnu htm pages and can upload changes to www root/

Person 2: edits galleries.vnu and can upload to /galleries/gallery01/ , galleries/gallery02/ etc

Person 3: edits news.vnu and can upload to /news/2012_02/ , /news/2012/03 etc

Each person's .vnu would create a section for the website, and because the .vnu file generates an index file automatically, so long as they put their files in the correct folder it should be possible for them add content independently.

If the only way to find out is to try it and see I'll guess I have to do that - just trying to save time and effort if someone has already tried this - no point in reinventing the wheel and all that.
:-)

Thanks.


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